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04-28-2017, 03:27 PM #11
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04-28-2017, 06:08 PM #12
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Another thing to look at is the weight of the truck vs the trailer. You do not want the tail wagging the dog too much..........
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04-29-2017, 08:02 AM #13
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I test drove the Titan XD and really liked it. It just didn't have enough capacity for the 5th wheel my DW decided to purchase. The Titan XD is absolutely worth looking at: it was comfortable, drove well, has a reliable engine, was reasonably quiet, and seemed a great value for the money. I drove a lot of 2016 & 2017 model trucks from the Titan XD, Chevy, Dodge, and Ford before settling on my 2017 F350 (which I love), and the only other truck including from Ford, that I would have purchased without reservation was the Titan XD: it just did not have the numbers I needed.
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04-29-2017, 12:55 PM #14
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You might be surprised to find the f250 and f350 SRW are almost identical in towing weight. Same with Dodge 2500/3500. Only real diffferrence is when going DRW.........
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04-29-2017, 02:16 PM #15
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You're right, there's not much difference in published Maximum Trailer Towing weight between a SRW 250/350 but that's just one factor. There is a BIG difference in Payload between the SRW 250 and the SRW 350.
The GVWR of my Reflection at 13,999 lbs does not exceed the 15,700# Published (5th wheel) Towing weight of my F-350.
My loaded Pin Weight plus passengers, hitch and cargo (2,650# + 200# + 50# + 200# = 3,100 lbs) gives me a comfortable margin and does not exceed the 3,500 lb Payload of my door sticker.
I'm not the weight police. I know that many people tow overweight. For me I wouldn't feel comfortable exceeding any of the published weight limits or recommend that to anyone else. I was impressed that LazyDays wanted a picture of my Truck's Safety Compliance Label to verify I didn't exceed Payload before letting me hitch up. I also had to sign the document confirming I was aware of the payload limits.
Here's my 2017 F-350 CCSB SRW payload sticker and a payload sticker of a 2016 F-250 CCSB SRW Platinum I was looking at. There's over 1,500 lbs of difference.Jerry & Linda
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04-29-2017, 02:16 PM #16
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04-29-2017, 10:58 PM #17
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I drove a F250 home today with just over 2,100 lbs in payload. I never want us to go too big on a trailer or fifth wheel. If it won't tow it safely I don't want it. The one I ended up with has the high capacity tow package which adds a dana rear axle and an additional leaf spring. jeffdawgfan the Ford dealer you talked to was wrong. My tow package gives me an additional overload spring over standard F250 but because of some kind of spring rate etc they do not compare to F350. Over the last two days of buying a F250, returning and coming home with another today I can confidently say dealers don't know much about what they are selling. The stuff that went on with the F250 I returned was truly shocking.
Have to say, still this is the best forum ever. You guys are great. I think I have to buy GD to have a reason to stay on here!
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04-30-2017, 12:26 AM #18
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04-30-2017, 08:35 AM #19
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True story here. I'm a full-time Firefighter/Paramedic and work 24hr on 48hr off shifts. When I purchased my 2015 Ram 3500 I was offered a job part-time by the sales manager at the dealership we purchased from because I made his sales guys and service guy look very incompetent. I really don't know that much more than the average truck guy, but I do know the numbers. Those guys had zero clue on payloads, towing numbers, torque and HP ratings for the different trans options, leaf springs vs coils, etc. It was honesty sad! The salesman who I used was truly a nice guy and easy to work with. He was telling me that they really don't get training on the vehicle specs, just how to close the sale and following up with potential customers. Its up to them to self educate on the vehicles but time doesn't really allow because they are generally short staffed. Went back 6 months later for my first service and both salesmen we worked with were gone. Go figure.2015 Ram SRW 3500 4x4 Cummins
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04-30-2017, 09:47 AM #20
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ALScott,
Congratulations on your new truck purchase. Which model is it? XL/XLT/Lariat/Platinum/KR?
You should have no problem pulling ANY Imagine Trailer with it! I'm glad you found one with the Trailer HD pkg with the Dana vs the Sterling axle and the extra leaf on the rear spring.
Get at least 1,000 miles on it before towing to get everything seated in the engine properly and get the brakes broken in.
Some advice on your new truck. When towing make sure you engage tow mode, if it did engage on its own,by pushing the button on the end of the shift level. Second, engage the engine brake by pushing the button at the top left above the center. The engine brake not only helps when going down hills but also assists when you normally apply brakes.
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