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    If I was goosenecking our 350M, I would definitely go DRW. As it is, with the 5thWheel hitch, I'm very comfortable towing it SRW. I spend a lot of time "Out West", up mountains, down mountains, crossing biiiiig open, gusty desert valleys with evil crosswinds. No real problems yet.

    I definitely see the reasons for DRW and will never dismiss them. For my own purposes, I really need a "fully functional" 4WD and the narrower width - for those times I am doing some fairly serious off-roading (as serious as one can get in a pretty damn monstrous pick-up truck!). I was pretty new to towing something this large when we bought this setup, but now (less than a year) I get comments from people that "You must be a Pro at this!" as I'm slinging it around in the inevitably too-small slots a lot of RV Parks offer, and while taking it off-road to places I probably shouldn't. My wife recently drove it on the freeway through Las Vegas and had no complaints. She actually thought it was much easier than her fears were telling her (drove for a bit over 100 miles on her first time behind the wheel!)

    So, do what makes sense for YOU. We spent more on the vehicle than we did for the 350M, because we wanted: Safe, Powerful, Comfortable, Good Looking (I HATE big pick ups...or I did...so if I was going to own one, I wanted one that fit our styles. But that "Good Looking" was far behind the other 3 criteria!). And for the sake of many Wee, Tiny gods, do your research and make sure you have plenty of "Margin"! Overspend if you need to, just to get that safety margin! It's very comforting to know you could tow something much larger if you wanted to, and knowing (as you point your nose down an 8% grade, doing 72 MPH) that you have PLENTY of margin to let the Engine Brake do it's job and start downshifting -- saving the brakes until you need them.

    A VERY nice feeling!

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    Thanx for all the input folks!

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    I agree with those who have said that you would be firmly in DRW territory. I would add that a true gooseneck adapter should NEVER be used on a fifth wheel RV. The RV frames are not designed or constructed to handle the torsional forces generated by a gooseneck adapter and, in many cases, using one will void your frame warranty. The one exception is the Reese GooseBox - largely because they have a business relationship with Lippert. If you meant that you are using a hitch such as the Andersen or PullRite that attach to the truck via the gooseneck ball, then ignore this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Chance View Post
    I agree with those who have said that you would be firmly in DRW territory. I would add that a true gooseneck adapter should NEVER be used on a fifth wheel RV. The RV frames are not designed or constructed to handle the torsional forces generated by a gooseneck adapter and, in many cases, using one will void your frame warranty. The one exception is the Reese GooseBox - largely because they have a business relationship with Lippert. If you meant that you are using a hitch such as the Andersen or PullRite that attach to the truck via the gooseneck ball, then ignore this.

    Rob
    My Open Range Light 319RLS came from the factory with a gooseneck hitch. It has a full two year hitch to bumper warranty. That being said, whenever I trade trucks, I will be towing my current RV with a gooseneck. Whenever I trade for a Grand Design, I will be towing with a fifth wheel hitch.
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    The web towing capacities are based off a 15% pin weight so a 18,000 towing capacity with a 15% pin would be 2700 pounds well within 1 ton specs. Most Solitudes have a 22 to 23 percent so 18,000 times 22,5 = 4050 pin weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSWine View Post
    The web towing capacities are based off a 15% pin weight so a 18,000 towing capacity with a 15% pin would be 2700 pounds well within 1 ton specs. Most Solitudes have a 22 to 23 percent so 18,000 times 22,5 = 4050 pin weight.
    Wow. A bit heavy for two wheels. Although not my daily driver preference, I'm leaning toward a dually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creagin View Post
    Wow. A bit heavy for two wheels. Although not my daily driver preference, I'm leaning toward a dually.
    "I" won't pull a 18,000 pounds with SRW either but that how the manufactures get that huge towing capacity is using 15% for fifth wheels and 10% or TT. I would be worried at that weight more about stopping distance since a modern diesel engine can easily pull that weight. I have Class A motorhome with Cummins 380hp diesel the motor home has a 36,200 GVWR and 46,200 GCWR and that engine pulls that kind weight fine but yes I have 6 tires and air brakes. That was one of my reason for switching to Class A is I have no use for DRW truck other than to tow a RV and I was already over weight with my 310GK with a 1 ton GMC. Now my daily driver is 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee and tow it behind the motor home.

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    The widest point of my dually is the mirrors and that is without extending them for towing. Most of you that have never driven a dually think those fenders are sticking out there and adding a few feet.

    If you don't drive around banging your mirrors, you probably won't hit the fenders.

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    The only .02 I can add to this discussion: don't believe the brochures as "gospel".

    Example: I was told by a "certified truck specialist" that my 2017 F-250 had >4K of payload! He knew this was right because it said so right in his little brochure. I showed him the sticker on the driver's doorpost of my truck and he couldn't explain why I only had 2135 lbs. The difference is, of course, is his brochure number is based off a stripped down regular cab gasser. My crew cab Platinum w/6.7 diesel is a lot heavier.

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    I’ve had both srw and drw 1ton trucks...Ram and Ford. Personally I prefer the added stability with the drw. You also need to take a close look at payload capacity. Motor wise, you “can” pull almost the same with either. I have a drw now as my daily driver and the benefits far outweigh the negative. Get what you love ...that can “safely” handle your load.
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