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    Since I've had over 100 new vehicles, I've had every brand of tire on the retail market at one time or another. Recently, I've had Kumhos and Cooper low profile tires on automobiles, and they didn't wear well.

    My 3/4 ton diesel came with Firestones, but that was 16 years ago. I replaced them with identical Firestones and later Toyo Open Country A/T's which were of the same quality as the Firestones. My truck now has Michelin LTX AT2 tires, and they're simply a class of their own. And at Costco, they were about $212 each--not terribly expensive by today's standards.

    Go with the Michelins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TucsonJim View Post
    I am just about to turn 40,000 miles on my Michelin LTX AT2 tires that came with my Ford. The way they are wearing, I'll be surprised if I don't get 60K before I have to replace them.

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    This is a more complicated question than you might think. I have been selling tires for over 30 years and I run what I sell. I very rarely wear out a set of tires so that I can try something new. Now, for my observations. The Michelin A/T2 that comes stock from GM is a different tread pattern than Ford uses. The tires Ford uses have lugs that are cut to full depth and they have decent traction. The tires GM sells have tread blocks on the outer lugs that totally inhibit traction once the tire is worn just a little. The Michelin that GM sells also wear out very quickly on a diesel with most not making it to 25k if used to tow. With that being said, I was a big fan of the Michelin LTX which has been replaced with the Defender. This is a very quiet tire and performs well with towing duties and if I wanted a highway tire this would be the tire I would use. Not my first choice for winter driving though. Michelin's rubber is too hard to provide good snow/ice traction and usually they loose their grip pretty easy in rain also. Trade offs.
    BFG KO2 is a great tire, but usually wear out prematurely on a diesel tow rig, pass. I have had excellent results with Hankook Dyna Pro ATM, Toyo AT II, Goodyear Duratracs if an all terrain tire is what you like. I also sell a lot of Cooper tires and the STMAXX is a very long lasting tire with heavy construction. I also sell a lot of AT3's. Cooper also makes Mickey Thompson and Dick Cepek tires and if something more aggressive is to your liking, Cepek has a brand new tire available called the TRAIL EXP, it is very similar to the Cooper STMAXX, but is being offered at very good introductory pricing. Check them out at Tirebuyer.com as one source. They have a 45k warranty and I have sold several sets of these to good friends and also have a set ready for my personal truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuffsaid View Post
    This is a more complicated question than you might think. I have been selling tires for over 30 years and I run what I sell. I very rarely wear out a set of tires so that I can try something new. Now, for my observations. The Michelin A/T2 that comes stock from GM is a different tread pattern than Ford uses. The tires Ford uses have lugs that are cut to full depth and they have decent traction. The tires GM sells have tread blocks on the outer lugs that totally inhibit traction once the tire is worn just a little. The Michelin that GM sells also wear out very quickly on a diesel with most not making it to 25k if used to tow. With that being said, I was a big fan of the Michelin LTX which has been replaced with the Defender. This is a very quiet tire and performs well with towing duties and if I wanted a highway tire this would be the tire I would use. Not my first choice for winter driving though. Michelin's rubber is too hard to provide good snow/ice traction and usually they loose their grip pretty easy in rain also. Trade offs.
    BFG KO2 is a great tire, but usually wear out prematurely on a diesel tow rig, pass. I have had excellent results with Hankook Dyna Pro ATM, Toyo AT II, Goodyear Duratracs if an all terrain tire is what you like. I also sell a lot of Cooper tires and the STMAXX is a very long lasting tire with heavy construction. I also sell a lot of AT3's. Cooper also makes Mickey Thompson and Dick Cepek tires and if something more aggressive is to your liking, Cepek has a brand new tire available called the TRAIL EXP, it is very similar to the Cooper STMAXX, but is being offered at very good introductory pricing. Check them out at Tirebuyer.com as one source. They have a 45k warranty and I have sold several sets of these to good friends and also have a set ready for my personal truck.
    I had a set of the Hankook tires once. We had an old van that didn't get drove very much and we didn't know how much longer we were going to keep it so we didn't want to put a lot of money into it. I was pleasantly surprised by the Hankooks. They rode nice and were great in the snow. They also were great wearing tires. I won't have a problem putting them on a daily driver. Don't know enough about them to put on a truck towing though.
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    Nuffsaid and Gary(Whittleburner) . . . interesting information!

    I recently replaced my OE BFG Rugged Trail LT tires with what I thought were the identical replacement tires . . . because the OE tires wore well and were stable towing. I did notice that the new tires have a slightly different tread pattern. The new tires are not as stable when towing. It would seem that BFG made slight tread pattern changes for OEM Ford.

    Hankook has a good name for passenger car snow tires in Canada. I have used these on several different vehicles.

    I agree with the comment that Michelin rubber is too hard to provide good snow/ice traction . . . but, they wear well. (again, passenger car experience)

    Good discussion!

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    I have had Toyo ATll on my last 3 trucks. My current truck came with them. They work well towing and when the weather gets bad. I have yet to have a set wear out. I will be replacing the ones that came on my truck this spring just due to age (5yrs/38Kmiles) and because I am going to a different wheel/tire size. I will continue to use the Toyos.
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    Every big city will have businesses that fix and refinish aluminum wheels--going around to dealerships. Some of these stores also sell wheels through the internet that they purchase in bulk from large auto salvage lots.

    My Lexus had a wheel break in an accident, and I bought a $450 OEM wheel for just over $100 online.

    If such a store carried every model and size wheel for most year Lexus automobiles, they'd certainly have 4 wheels to go on any pickup truck. I'd be shopping online for a complete set of wheels for your truck.

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    I use Michelin for all my passenger cars too. They are simply the best. Put a set on an old 1999 Saturn that we use to run around (it won't die). The difference in ride quality was simply unbelievable. Felt like going from a Yugo to a Cadillac.

    I ran a set of Hankooks on my 1 ton Dodge dually and hated them. Rode like crap and wore very unevenly even though alignment was spot on and I rotated religiously at 5K.

    No connection to Michelin, but I just pay a little more and run the best.

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    The Firestone Transforce comes standard on the Ram HD's and comes in two flavors; the AT and HT tread. Over on the Ram forum, not many have a good word on the AT version. The HT (highway tread) fare a little better in public opinion. That's what I have on my '16 Ram 3500. Based on how they look and the miles on them, I expect to get about 45,000 on them before needing replacement. I'm looking at the Coopers for the next time.
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    Just changed mine on our 2013 2500HD Duramax. We tow a Momentum 350M and got 48,000 miles out of our Goodyear Wrangler SRA, LT265-60-20. They performed great, wet, snow, dry weather, were quiet, never cupped, no uneven wearing and weren't quite to the wear marks when we changed them and due to the even wear we only rotated the tires once! Put the same back on to head south this winter without a worry.

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