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    Rear Underbelly Stuff

    So . . . a couple of threads have led me to dropping the coroplast at the very back of the trailer . . .

    This one led me to realizing the manual drive on my slide was broken
    https://www.mygrandrv.com/fo...perating-Slide

    This one led me to go looking for defective electrical connections in the same area.
    https://www.mygrandrv.com/fo...e-SO-Type-Cord

    Dropping the coroplast was easy once I got the stabilizer assembly removed (BTW one of 4 screws was gone and another was stripped)

    The first thought that came to mind after my rebuild of the plumbing area was . . . here we go again.
    BTW, there is absolutely no insulation aft of the foil that wraps up the back of the water tank . . . no wonder that back floor is so cold!

    More to follow (of course ) as I put this all back together.

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    Man, what a mess. It is amazing how little attention to detail these RV manufacturer's pay. If I was the guy wiring that up, I would be embarrassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoElkhounds View Post
    Man, what a mess. It is amazing how little attention to detail these RV manufacturer's pay. If I was the guy wiring that up, I would be embarrassed.

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    Clearly the Amish do not have a great deal of experience with electrical systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestCamper View Post
    Clearly the Amish do not have a great deal of experience with electrical systems.
    Apparently neither do the English supervisors, upper management or the President.
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    Wow. Frankly, if I had read this forum and seen many of these posts, I would have never bought the Solitude we just bought. There is just no excuse for that type of shoddy workmanship. The folks at Grand Design who claim they have great build quality are just blowing smoke. Shame on them. They have to know this stuff is going on. I've only seen the wiring mess behind the panel in the basement storage area and that was enough to make me shudder.

    I guess I will be spending a lot of my time this spring under this beast inspecting and fixing this stuff.
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    We have had a number of discussions on Grand Design's approach to quality. Their multi-million dollar investments is post production inspection (of things visible at that point) fosters an attitude that hidden things can be rushed and don't matter. Their "inspect in quality" approach is more than 3 decades out of date. I did have the opportunity to talk with some of the GDRV executives about this at a Rally. I asked if they knew of Edwards Deming. No one admitted to ever having heard of him. The RV industry is so isolated from the rest of the manufacturing world . . . this might be true.

    This thread is a good read on this topic https://www.mygrandrv.com/fo...9262#post49262

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    Rob that pic just amazes me! You would think they could use a few wires ties and try to route the wiring a little better. GD does such a good job on a lot of things with these trailers but what you can't see is pretty scary! I think I'll never look under there, ignorance is bliss!
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    Wow I all I can say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffnCheri View Post
    Wow I all I can say.
    ^^^ 2x

    I would be so embarrassed if that were my work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoChris View Post
    ^^^ 2x

    I would be so embarrassed if that were my work.

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    I didn’t build it, I only bought one and I’m embarrassed.
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