Ugh...Two timers club.

[phonemannn]

Sometimes, we're forced to buy a new one....





Jim

It will buff out...Ouch. what happened?

[minnow101]

.... This truck cost more than my first two houses.

Combined.

[minnow101]

?...
PLUS, the safety factor engineered into these trucks allows for the truck's GVWR to be slightly above stated values by @ 10%, so I find it hard to grasp why the GVWR of a newer 3/4 ton is only 10K ??

I agree that most HD pickups can handle more weight then what is declared by the manufacturer. The problem is there is no official “safety factor” advertised, declared or spoken about from any the manufacturers. So in the event of a crash and any ensuing liability/lawsuits, one won’t get very far with a 10% (or whatever) safety factor defense because that number officialy doesn’t exist. If one exceeds the placarded weight of the truck, you are overweight period. End of discussion.

[TucsonJim]

It will buff out...Ouch. what happened?

Very long story that I've posted in another thread on the forum. But the short version was a fuel leak in the Ford.

[Walaby]

PLUS, the safety factor engineered into these trucks allows for the truck's GVWR to be slightly above stated values by @ 10%, so I find it hard to grasp why the GVWR of a newer 3/4 ton is only 10K ??

Never heard of a 10% safety factor being engineered. Where did you come up with that?

Just like the myth that you can speed 4MPH over speed limit and not get a ticket. My niece found out twice in one day that is not true either.

Mike

[howson]

...PLUS, the safety factor engineered into these trucks allows for the truck's GVWR to be slightly above stated values by @ 10%...

I sure hope you fired up the popcorn machine after posting...you're going to make a few heads gowhen they read your post.

{Trying to mimic Chris' Big Boy voice...} No doubt there will be responses ("INCOMING!"), but let's keep it civil, folks. -Moderator Howard

[Da Breeze]

As expected the "PROVE IT" folks have come out in force.
First off.. My uncle worked for Ford as an mechanical engineer for all of his 39 year career with them, in product development.
Next.....
Of course, Ford nor any other manufacturer, will admit there is any "safety factor" being built into their specs. Simple logic denotes that if you tell someone 10K is legit, then they will assume 12K is OK as well.
IF a failure pattern does develop, the company is OFF THE HOOK for liability, as they do not want to be seen as complicit,
hence they factor in "safety margins" to mitigate their exposure.

Remember Ford's side fuel tank explosions and consequent fatalities ??
Perfect example of the lack of any advertised safety protocols !!!

As far as the fear mongers go, there IS a balance between logic, probablity, and liability.
IMHO, to swap a "suitable TV" for a measley 600 lb vehicle overload is obtuse.

But this is only my opinion, and I do not profess to have any privileged information

Michael

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[Cate&Rob]

Hi Michael @mikgala

My (similar) thoughts in post 36 of this thread . . . https://www.mygrandrv.com/fo...483#post217483

Rob

[DaveMatthewsBand]

Hilarious


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[AZCM98]

I should have kept my mouth shut and just updated my signature line. However, I do learn stuff every time I log in.

As a Newbie, I appreciate all the comments, advice and information from seasoned campers. Thank you.