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    Lightbulb New Lithium battery on the market

    I just found this...

    LION ENERGY SAFARI 12V 100AH (1200WH)
    LIFEPO4 DEEP CYCLE BATTERY


    *Lifetime warranty

    Curious to see what that means, but still, they have a good price point.

    $799.00
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    Here is the link
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    You have Battle Born batteries don't you?

    $800 sure beats $1000. Now that competition is out there, they'll have to start coming down on their price point.
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    ^^^^ following ^^^^
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    So made in China?

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    Made in China, Lion Energy's website lists them for $999.. Wonder why they are selling them $200 off

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    Something doesn’t add up. Battle born is 31lbs! This new battery is only 21lbs. Perhaps less cells meaning not a true 100 amp/hour usable? Or less of a BMS? Battleborn has a minimalist case and is 10lbs heavier, that means something internal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcdiesel View Post
    Something doesn’t add up.
    Battle born is 31lbs! This new battery is only 21lbs.
    Perhaps less cells meaning not a true 100 amp/hour usable?
    Or less of a BMS? Battleborn has a minimalist case and is 10lbs heavier, that means something internal.

    BB's are 29 lbs each, these are 20.
    But yes, the weight difference seems substantial.

    The physical size is somewhat smaller on the Lion Energy batteries, this could account for the weight.
    Maybe a thinner case as well, since the BB's list a higher operating temperature.
    Still, 500ah of lithium (equal to 1000ah of lead acid) for 100 lbs of weight is pretty sweet.

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    I’m still curious if that is a 100 usable a/h from the Lion battery. Using the same lifpo4 technology something has to be missing when 1/3 lighter. It just doesn’t add up unless BB is using tons of heavy heat sinking inside that Lion does not.

    Noting that Lion has “rated capacity” and BB “usable capacity”...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcdiesel View Post
    I’m still curious if that is a 100 usable a/h from the Lion battery. Using the same lifpo4 technology something has to be missing when 1/3 lighter. It just doesn’t add up unless BB is using tons of heavy heat sinking inside that Lion does not.

    Noting that Lion has “rated capacity” and BB “usable capacity”...
    Are you actually in the market for lithium batteries?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMatthewsBand View Post
    Are you actually in the market for lithium batteries?
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    Not anymore, bought some already. My interest is based on the fact I was a technologist in a lithium ion battery manufacturing plant many years ago. Something is not adding up here... either magical tech or not comparing apples to apples...
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