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    Quote Originally Posted by jw^2 family View Post
    Weight carrying is the configuration without a weight distributing hitch, like if you were towing a small utility trailer or pop-up camping trailer. In the "weight carrying" configuration all of the trailer's tongue weight is carried by the tow vehicle's hitch, hanging behind the tow vehicle's rear axle.

    Weight distributing is the configuration with a weight distributing hitch that, as the name implies, distributes some of the weight to the tow vehicle's front axle, rather than all of the weight just hanging behind the rear axle. The tongue weight of a trailer might be 800-lbs. for example, but instead of all 800-lbs. being carried by the rear axle, the weight distributing hitch would transfer say 300-lbs. to the tow vehicle's front axle, leaving 500-lbs. to be carried by the rear axle. (this is a very simplified illustration, which avoids getting into weight transferred back to the trailer's axles).

    It's not uncommon for the sticker on a hitch receiver to list two separate ratings, like 500-lbs. weight carrying and 1,000-lbs. weight distributing.
    My TV doesn’t have the info and I couldn’t find the info else where. Some GL owners who tow much larger TT insist it should be capable of towing about 900-1000lbs with a hensley or propride, but I just couldn’t find an evidence.

    Anyway, thanks for the info and it is good to know there is a separate rating for W.D

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    If it helps, part of the sheet from my 2019 2400BH is here:

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    I tow with and F-150 that meets the numbers needed, but not by a huge margin. You may find that even meeting the numbers might not provide a comfortable towing experience. I would not tow this with anything less that what I am using. $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh.xsnrg View Post
    If it helps, part of the sheet from my 2019 2400BH is here:

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    I tow with and F-150 that meets the numbers needed, but not by a huge margin. You may find that even meeting the numbers might not provide a comfortable towing experience. I would not tow this with anything less that what I am using. $.02

    Jim
    Jim, Thanks for the sheet.

    Does the hitch weight include the LP gas tank and battery?
    By the way, can you please also share the towing capacity of your F150? It will give me a much better idea.
    I am leaning towards getting a half-ton truck or even F250..

    *EDITED*
    I just found that your F-150 is super power.. it can tow 12,200 lbs with max payload of 3,180 lbs.
    Wow.. with this capacity, there is no huge margin.. I can't imagine towing the TT with my TV.

    The 2015 F-150 equipped with the 3.5L twin-turbo EcoBoost and rear-wheel drive can tow 12,200 pounds with a maximum payload of 3,180 pounds.
    Last edited by tomilee; 04-18-2019 at 11:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomilee View Post
    Jim, Thanks for the sheet.

    Does the hitch weight include the LP gas tank and battery?
    By the way, can you please also share the towing capacity of your F150? It will give me a much better idea.
    I am leaning towards getting a half-ton truck or even F250..

    *EDITED*
    I just found that your F-150 is super power.. it can tow 12,200 lbs with max payload of 3,180 lbs.
    Wow.. with this capacity, there is no huge margin.. I can't imagine towing the TT with my TV.

    The 2015 F-150 equipped with the 3.5L twin-turbo EcoBoost and rear-wheel drive can tow 12,200 pounds with a maximum payload of 3,180 pounds.
    1. The factory weight sheets are without propane tanks and battery.

    2 Re F150.... Don’t count on it. My 2016 F150XLT 2WD Crew Cab Short Bed w/3.5L Eco Boost had a payload of 1964 lbs. it was white knuckle towing. 2800BH with it.

    If you decide to go for a 3/4 ton F250 seriously consider going to a F350. It will give you 1000 lbs more payload than a 250 for not much more money.

    If you decide on a gas 250/350 get the 4.30 axle to gain max towing ability.
    If you go Diesel 250 you will have a payload in the 2100-2200 lb range. 350 will be in the 3400-3500 range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerryr View Post
    1. The factory weight sheets are without propane tanks and battery.

    2 Re F150.... Don’t count on it. My 2016 F150XLT 2WD Crew Cab Short Bed w/3.5L Eco Boost had a payload of 1964 lbs. it was white knuckle towing. 2800BH with it.

    If you decide to go for a 3/4 ton F250 seriously consider going to a F350. It will give you 1000 lbs more payload than a 250 for not much more money.

    If you decide on a gas 250/350 get the 4.30 axle to gain max towing ability.
    If you go Diesel 250 you will have a payload in the 2100-2200 lb range. 350 will be in the 3400-3500 range.
    Thanks! I actually saw a lot of people recommend F350 over F250.
    My dream just keeps getting bigger.. If I get F350, I'd probably look for even bigger TTs..or even 5th wheels.
    Almost everyone should have gone through the same thought process, I guess.

    Anyway, thanks again!

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    And here are the hitch and payload stickers from my previous 2016 F150XLT 2WD CCSB W/3.5L EB.




    Jerry & Linda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerryr View Post
    And here are the hitch and payload stickers from my previous 2016 F150XLT 2WD CCSB W/3.5L EB.




    Wow.. it is really interesting.
    It is more than double with WD.

    Thanks for the pics!

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    Don’t feel bad

    I traded a 2016 F150XLT with 2.7EB for a 2016 F150 3.5L EB so I could “safely tow” a 2800BH. When towing I found that the trailer was “in charge”. Anytime I was passed by an 18 wheeler or any big truck I would get sucked towards the truck then pushed away as it passed. It was very unnerving.

    I was towing with a Blue Ox WDH with 1,000 lbs spring bars. I changed the bars to 1,500 lbs, installed air bags and no change. I then bought a $2,500 ProPride and it resolved 90% of the sway but it still felt like the trailer was in charge and the wife was not comfortable riding with the trailer in tow.

    A few months later we decided we liked camping and we decided to buy a 5th wheel because of what I was told stability. So I returned the ProPride, sold the BlueOx, traded the 3 month old F150XLT XLTs in on a brand new diesel F350 and traded the 3 month old 2800BH in on a Reflection 337RLS. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Now I don’t constantly look in the rear view mirror looking for big trucks that are going to pass me. I no longer worry about 15 knot cross winds or wind gusts. That was 2-1/2 years ago and still am amazed how well it tows.
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    Here’s the hitch label for my F350

    Jerry & Linda
    Emma & Abby our Mini Golden Doodles & JR our Amazon Parrot
    2017 Reflection 337RLS, Build Date 01/2017, Titan Disk Brakes, Goodyear G614s 235/85/16 G Rated tires
    2022 F-450 King Ranch Ultimate, 4,868 lb Payload, Bedrug Bedliner, Andersen Ultimate II Aluminum 5th wheel hitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerryr View Post
    Here’s the hitch label for my F350

    Thanks for sharing your story. I heard the 5th wheel is a lot more stable than TT.
    Is it really much easier to tow 5th wheel? and how easy is it to hook it up?
    I also thought about 5th wheel, but I was not sure whether I can tow such a big monster.

    I also had a similar experience. I rented a TT from rvshare and went to a nearby campground.
    It was a nerve racking experience that I could feel the TT behind me and I was pushed and pulled all the time.
    I thought it was a WD setup problem because it was a 21ft small trailer. I was thinking of giving it one more try before I decide which one to buy.

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