Auto level on the Reflection series trailers

**Stimpack** · 05-10-2019, 10:06 PM

I have a 2016 Reflection 337rls with electric auto 4 point leveling system. Absolutely love it, but hate the control panel for it. I have read the instructions a couple times and watched videos and I can never remember what to hit twice for this and twice for that...…….It works, but i'm not using it to its full advantage because of user interface and OLD timers. Either way, auto level is awesome. Also I see where people said stuff about tires off the ground? I'm at a loss for that. Why should the tires still contact the ground? To me if I notice one of the tires come off the ground i'm like cool, not as much shaking around.

**Da Breeze** · 05-11-2019, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Stimpack

I have a 2016 Reflection 337rls with electric auto 4 point leveling system. Absolutely love it, but hate the control panel for it. I have read the instructions a couple times and watched videos and I can never remember what to hit twice for this and twice for that...…….It works, but i'm not using it to its full advantage because of user interface and OLD timers. Either way, auto level is awesome. Also I see where people said stuff about tires off the ground? I'm at a loss for that. Why should the tires still contact the ground? To me if I notice one of the tires come off the ground i'm like cool, not as much shaking around.

Hi Stim,
Yeah, a lot of us have "old timers syndrome"...especially with new tech!
I've found that if I wrote down the sequence, it helped until I "got it" !!

Basically, an easy process ....
Turn ON,
use up or down arrows to choose
GROUND FRONT JACKS
UNHITCH and pull TV away
PRESS AUTO LEVEL
Done...

IDK why, but I've found no need to start nose high, to commence Auto Level on the 3.0 system ??
In fact, raising the front jacks further after its grounded, actually prevents the system from "remembering" the disconnect height when you go to RECONNECT...
(and when you're ready to depart).

If you check out the level side to side and front to back and its not perfectly level,
you may need to reset the zero configuration point. The procedure is easy enough, but requires a little more "button pushing" and is found in the Lippert 3.0 manual.

Hope this helps.

Michael

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

**Walaby** · 05-11-2019, 09:37 AM

Im a true fan of the auto level feature. And the auto reconnect feature. Have worked flawlessly so far.

Once I hit auto level I can walk around, connect up my water, electric etc while it is leveling. By the time Im done, it's level and next step is a beer.

Mike

**Da Breeze** · 05-11-2019, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Walaby

Im a true fan of the auto level feature. And the auto reconnect feature. Have worked flawlessly so far.

Once I hit auto level I can walk around, connect up my water, electric etc while it is leveling. By the time Im done, it's level and next step is a beer.

Mike

Ditto on the cold beer !!!

BUT.... I always hook up power before anything !
I use an EMS PT 50X power management system and will go no further until it clicks ON !! Got all set up once and had to break it all back down and move bc of a bad power pedestal.

Michael

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

**Walaby** · 05-11-2019, 10:02 AM

That's a good point. Actually thinking about it, in the summer, I usually hook electric up first, make sure I have good power, and then turn on the a/c while Im doing everything else. That way when DW starts to take care of the inside, it has cooled a tad bit.

Mike

**TheLexx** · 05-12-2019, 02:07 AM

I really like the auto level feature on our Reflection fiver. I know there are a lot of veteran RVers here who can level anything with just their grit and a cell phone app. I am not one of those people. I want to drive up to the campsite, put my Andersen Jack Blocks down, hit the button and watch the magic dance. It minimizes the time the wife and kids have to complain before they can go inside the trailer lol.

IMO there are a few other things to consider in your decision.

1. What kind of truck are you going to tow the thing with? That 2004 1500 series truck may not have the payload capacity to tow a heavy fiver. Take a look at the yellow payload sticker on your doorjamb. Then take 20% of the GVW of the trailer as a rough guestimate of the pin weight. Add you and your wife, and whatever else goes in the truck to the pin weight to see if you're over.

2. Reflection vs Solitude fiver. They use the same end components - all the stuff is made by the same companies. The capacities may be different. IOW the Reflection may have an 8 cu ft fridge while the Solitude has a 12 cu ft model. The Solitudes tend to have room for a washer/dryer. That's the one big thing we miss having in our trailer! Solutudes are also heavier. Again, watch the pin weight.

3. Check with your state's licensure requirements. For our state, if we go over 15k lbs GVW on the trailer, we need a non-commercial class A license. Not a huge deal, but it's a PITA to go through all that. Our Reflection is about 11k lbs GVW so all I had to do was get a trailers endorsement, which was fairly simple. But know what the requirements are and decide if you want to go through the hassle of getting that non-comm Class A.

4. 3-4 months usage is still fairly light usage. From a use standpoint, you could probably get by with either a Reflection or Solitude. If you're going to live in it full time, I'd say get the Solitude or better yet, a Momentum.

5. Definitely get a storage shed for the trailer. I don't have one, and it's a PITA to get up on the roof to blow out all the leaves in the gutters and scrub down the roof to get all the mildew on after the winter rains.

Hope that helps!

**mestubbe** · 05-12-2019, 08:12 AM

I haven't had any issues with the LCI 3.0 on ours, but I have started carrying Jack Blocks from Anderson Hitches (see link) as we have been at some locations where the concrete pad is not level and the jacks have "run out of stroke".

https://andersenhitches.com/Products...lock-2pak.aspx

**Da Breeze** · 05-12-2019, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by mestubbe

I haven't had any issues with the LCI 3.0 on ours, but I have started carrying Jack Blocks from Anderson Hitches (see link) as we have been at some locations where the concrete pad is not level and the jacks have "run out of stroke".

https://andersenhitches.com/Products...lock-2pak.aspx

$ 100 for 2 blocks means $200 for 4 ???

Naaaah .... I got those interlocking 8 x 8 yellow blocks that work just fine !!!
Come 10 to a set and take up no room.

Got better things to spend $$$ on than Homer buckets !! [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]

I love the guy washing his rig while standing on one... OOPS !!

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

**DaveMatthewsBand** · 05-12-2019, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by mikgala

$ 100 for 2 blocks means $200 for 4 ???

Naaaah .... I got those interlocking 8 x 8 yellow blocks that work just fine !!!
Come 10 to a set and take up no room.

Got better things to spend $$$ on than Homer buckets !!

I constantly see people crush those, and buy new ones, over and over. Spend it now or later but you’ll end up spending the same either way.
You’re paying for the durability.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**Da Breeze** · 05-12-2019, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by DaveMatthewsBand

I constantly see people crush those, and buy new ones, over and over. Spend it now or later but you’ll end up spending the same either way.
You’re paying for the durability.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

IDK Dave....
Maybe they're the ones with 16K rigs ??

I bought mine 2 years ago, traveled coast to coast for 8 months and 12K .miles (using them everyday)
and never had one crush ???

Then again, I'm a lightweight, or at least my rig is.��

Michael