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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow101 View Post
    As a clarification, the Grand Design Owners Forum on FB is not run by GD. Although GD did host a meeting at the Elkhart headquarters for many of the GD centric FB group administrators about what was being discussed on these FB pages. It was shortly thereafter(especially on the Grand Design Owners Forum page) where several Owners that were critical of GD on build quality and/or service were summarily booted off the page.
    Part of the confusion. There is the "Grand Design Owners" Group, which is not run by GD. And then there is the "Grand Design RV" group that IS (along with the "GDRV4Life" Group). And another 72+ others with "Grand Design" in the name. Interesting how many use a version of the company logo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sande005 View Post
    Part of the confusion. There is the "Grand Design Owners" Group, which is not run by GD. And then there is the "Grand Design RV" group that IS (along with the "GDRV4Life" Group). And another 72+ others with "Grand Design" in the name. Interesting how many use a version of the company logo...
    I don't specifically see any FB group called "Grand Design RV" when doing a search on FB. There is a Grand Design RV Owners and a separate Grand Design RV Group whose group message states "A place where individuals who want to share info on their Grand Design RV. This is not or has any affiliation with the official corporation of Grand Design RV)
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow101 View Post
    I don't specifically see any FB group called "Grand Design RV" when doing a search on FB. There is a Grand Design RV Owners and a separate Grand Design RV Group whose group message states "A place where individuals who want to share info on their Grand Design RV. This is not or has any affiliation with the official corporation of Grand Design RV)
    See the link provided by Grand Design: https://www.granddesignrv.com/owner-...-support-links The Admins are several well known GD managers.
    Hence the apparent retreat to an inbound managed customer process - their official group gets lost in the clutter.

    In the early days (what - only 2-3 years ago??) I loved that they did a lot of outreach here and in the few FB groups existing. Showed that they had a true commitment to taking care of their customers. I doubt that has changed, but the ability to go out and troll for questions and concerns has become severely compromised by the vast array of communications channels. I haven't even dared look at Twitter, Instagram, etc. to see how many other conglomerations of users there are there, too.

    Back before retirement, I used to provide IT support - and had to manage my captive group of users communicating via phone, text, email, Google Groups, and yes, FB - and THAT was a challenge, especially when the user would change channels mid-conversation with no notice. (e-mail, FB, then phone...etc) I shudder to think of how hard it would be now, when users can setup their own methods, and then demand to still be heard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toes in the water View Post
    Andy - It has been a few weeks. What can you can share with the forum group on not only GDRV future forum participation but anything else regarding the new marriage with your group ?

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    No update yet... I will post as soon as possible.

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    Since there has been no response from GD, can we assume GD has decided to abandon our forum ?
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    I can’t speak for GD but I can tell you we are working with their trademark attorney and hope we can resolve any issues they have. It’s my understanding they have gone after many GD related things like Facebook Groups, nick knack vendors etc as a legal compliance effort to protect their brand.

    The issue is that they never had an issue in the past but know they do and there are legal nuances about that which we are trying to work out.

    After repeated attempts to reach out to folks at GD I’ve only heard silence. I am guessing that they must be waiting for Winnebago’s outside trademark counsel to work things out before chatting with us.

    It appears to me this is probably driven by the new ownership of Winnebago and their counsel taking actions that you need to do every so often to prove you are protecting your brand so you can keep your trademarks.

    FWIW - I learned about this after the deal was done. I guess it started last summer When they reached out to people but they never followed up. Then as the ownership transition to was completed they voiced their concern again.

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    Andy

    Thanks for the update.
    I have been thinking about this each time somebody posts in the "feedback to manufacture" areas. I believe since late last summer when GD introduced GDRV4life website and sometime after kinda stopped being on here I think they are trying to get everybody to use this new site for contacting and keeping up to date with GD. This would make sense since this is there own site and can be monitored better. I also think they pay a little more attention to facebook because there are way more users there than here on this forum. All that being said I can not understand why they are not at least checking in here and giving us a little info when asked , after all this is way more of a comprehendible site that facebook , but it could also be because this is a well looked after and moderated site that they do not need to worry about it.
    Just an opinion but maybe something valid.

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    Funny, a new video from the the owner Don Clark, mentions our forum and shows a shot of it including the Grand Design logo. This was from a few days ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jims94vmx View Post
    Funny, a new video from the the owner Don Clark, mentions our forum and shows a shot of it including the Grand Design logo. This was from a few days ago
    Jim - what is the link to the video or where can it be found. Just spent some time looking on various sites and did not locate it.

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    6:38 into this video loaded 2 days ago....

    https://youtu.be/7NO_Gf9fZl8
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